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Post by Silvan Elves of Sith'ari on May 5, 2011 15:31:42 GMT -5
Talk heeeere!
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Post by Tribes of Kurgan on May 5, 2011 16:03:42 GMT -5
Still debating what i'm gonna do here. Either Goblin's or something based off an italian city state. Suggestions?
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Post by Silvan Elves of Sith'ari on May 5, 2011 16:09:36 GMT -5
Goblins would be baddies.
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Post by Tribes of Kurgan on May 5, 2011 16:11:41 GMT -5
I wanted to use the new gunpowder trait but if i do goblins it would be awkward for four foot midgets to be using firearms. More likely i'd select cave trolls maybe. Hmmm. >< time to flip a coin!
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Post by Talisw on May 5, 2011 17:09:51 GMT -5
Arabesque-wielding goblins would be both hilarious and awesome. I suppose their rifles would look more like carbines, but the nice thing about guns is that they're a weapon that does the same damage regardless of the wielder's size.
Looks like a good forum Theo. I have qualms about adding a morality scale, but in this situation it kind of fits, since what it really indicates is the nation's alignment during the past war.
I'm thinking of doing a modified faction - not Eraenhil but similar, probably an elven oligarchy. I'll have to think about it more and see what other people are doing.
In any case, I'd be open to sharing histories with anyone who wants, so let me know what you're all doing.
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Post by Merenaz Caliphate on May 5, 2011 18:20:00 GMT -5
hmm...wait a sec, I know we agreed to raise the population limit to 100 million but don't you guys think that it is a bit too far-fetched? Obviously, this nation-rp is categorized as medieval fantasy, so if nation pop should be based upon the demography of medieval Europe for example, the kingdom of Bulgaria that was categorized as a minute kingdom in Europe has a population of nearly 2 million if there were no wars or plague sweeping over the land. Meanwhile, the kingdom of France which has the most population of the entire European kingdoms at the time and may be categorized as a large kingdom has a population of 17 million, of course this was before the black death.
So I opt for lower population limit, around the range of 2 million - 10 million? anyone? I mean a nation with 5 million population can easily afford and maintain an army of 300,000-500,000 troops and that is already a gigantic army.
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Post by Silvan Elves of Sith'ari on May 5, 2011 18:28:26 GMT -5
Nah. At it's height, the Roman Empire had about 80 - 100 million people and only had about 47 legions, which was about 141,000 troops.
I can drop it though if it's the mutual consensus. However, a nation with 5 million can not maintain an army of 500,000. That would be 10% of it's population and that's crazy.
Talis, write me up Field Fortifications and Sappers and I'll add them.
I'm ambivalent about blackpowder already because I don't want everyone using it. I feel like the first three categories will yield 2 of them using that trait.
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Post by Tribes of Kurgan on May 5, 2011 19:57:11 GMT -5
Too bad we don't have the skaven from the warhammer universe in here, that would be awesome XD. I'm still stuck on which trait to pick, i might go with blackpowder just because it would be hilarious for goblins to be using them. But then again I don't want to pick something that everyone else is.
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Post by Silvan Elves of Sith'ari on May 5, 2011 19:57:53 GMT -5
Gunpowder is probably going to be caput in favor of something else. So hold off for right now. Where are you going to put them so I know where Sith'ari needs to go.
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Post by Tribes of Kurgan on May 5, 2011 20:01:25 GMT -5
I don't care, just jam me somewhere close to the Deadlands because it's an important part of my history. I want my kingdom to be the first that sided with Varinius.
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Post by Silvan Elves of Sith'ari on May 5, 2011 20:02:53 GMT -5
Okay. Tell me your kingdom size and name and I'll put us on there before our apps go up. I'm working on my app right now but it won't be done for a while, but I can do the map easy, so just tell me a kingdom size.
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Post by Mandate of Ainrii on May 5, 2011 20:04:59 GMT -5
The Roman Empire was a multicultural empire that spanned an entire region and the culmination of dozens of other would-be empires. I think its equivalent on this forum would be if someone conquered half the map.
And anyway, I'm not sure that 47 legions is a good representation of the Roman military. It depends on the era we're referring too, but my instinct is to point out that those 47 legions probably don't count the enormous number of auxiliaries who would also serve. In that case, those 141,000 troops would be referring only to the very elite core of the entire roman army.
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Field Fortifications - Your armies may establish temporary field fortifications at any location. These light fortifications include ditches, earthen barricades and wooden stakes. They provide an advantage to defending troops, but are not meant to act as a serious barrier against enemy soldiers.
Sappers - During sieges, your infantry companies may act as sappers - digging under enemy fortifications in order to bypass or collapse them. If defending against an enemy who is also using sappers, you may dig counter-tunnels to drive them off.
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Post by Tribes of Kurgan on May 5, 2011 20:05:43 GMT -5
It's just gonna be moderate for right now. Just call them the Tribes of Kurgan. I'm still dwelling on a better name but for right now, call 'em that.
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Post by Silvan Elves of Sith'ari on May 5, 2011 20:06:50 GMT -5
Even if you have a population of 100,000,000 and you bought the cheapest units you could buy, you'd only be able to raise 150,000 troops.
I see no problems.
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Post by Mandate of Ainrii on May 5, 2011 20:16:35 GMT -5
I guess. I'd be Erin on this issue; 1-25 million inhabitants sounds like the right range for this RP. Maybe a prosperous empire with lots of infrastructure and space could eventually reach a Roman-Empire status, but I wouldn't want players to start out that way. Just my 2 cents.
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